Paris Attacks:  Did it Change the Debate on Migration?

Paris Attacks: Did it Change the Debate on Migration?

              Certainly America, while mostly ignoring the refugee crisis in Europe prior to the terror attack in France, has woken up.  The chatter is endless and sometimes even maddening.  Some would ban all refugees while others would open the borders to all, no questions asked.  Perhaps one thing we can get over here is the useless comparisons that “we are a nation of immigrants” that “welcomed my grandparents” from Italy, Slovakia, Germany (personally true)….It sounds nice, but trying to piece together events — separated by decades, under a different context, and involving very different people, cultures, and times — to fit ones own political agenda is irrelevant to the current debate.
     
              But you can’t accuse America of being naive.  After the Sunni terrorists attacked the US on 9-11 with planes, there was no hesitation “to change and strengthen” security at the airports.  No endless babble and self-blame about those “disenfranchised” from our culture resorting to terrorism.
     
              Amazingly,  little has changed in Europe besides the fear factor.  Those — such as Merkel, Juncker, etc — who advocated “no borders, no limits, no security” are insisting on the status quo and want no changes.  They have doubled down and are even more determined to impose “Merkel Vision” on the rest of the EU.  Forget any visions of Hungarians, Czechs, Poles or Slovaks –“solidarity” means genuflecting to Merkel and Germany.
     
              This is disappointing but not shocking. The idea of opening up ones borders to millions of undocumented migrants/refugees from regions well known for persecuting non-Muslims and containing violent jihadists who proclaimed Europe as their next Syria was sheer lunacy, even before Paris.  This type of policy was just as ludicrous two months ago as it is today.
   
             Merkel, Juncker, etc. have staked their entire reputations on this. They are not about to allow some small group of backward serfs (their thinking not mine) from Eastern Europe spoil their visions of grandeur of saving mankind.  It’s all about their values and their legacy, but what type of values risk the security of your own people in the name of “humanity”.
     
             The opposition to Merkel has come primarily from the Visegrad4 nations of Hungary, Czech republic, Slovakia and Poland.  Others, such as Slovenia, are also increasingly challenging the EU.  Despite claims by the media that they are taking advantage of Paris to oppose Merkel’s refugee redistribution plan, the V4 have the same position today as they did months ago:

1.  secure the border to stop the endless flow
2.  confront the smugglers
3.  detain those undocumented migrants instead of allowing unknowns to roam Europe
4.  set up hotspots outside the EU borders to register those who qualify as refugees and deport those who have no business in Europe.
5.  freedom to choose just who and how many they decide upon to enter their countries.

          Viktor Orban and Co. exercised authority to control events and now have peace, order and security in their streets.  Merkel, Greece, Sweden, etc., on the other hand, chose to allow themselves and their people to become captive to the actions of the masses.  The result being chaos, violence, and a sense that they are losing their “way of life” and culture.
   
            Merkel, Juncker and Co. have one card left to play.    They are overwhelmed, yet too weak to control their borders or to insist on limits or any type of inconvenience for the refugees.  There will be a showdown, one last stand by Merkel, and she will utilize all of her economic might to force Eastern Europe and the Visegrad4 into something they do not wish…..a permanent and endless refugee redistribution scheme that will force them to accept a vision that Merkel claimed utterly failed in Germany in 2010….multiculturalism.
 
             The problem:  Orban and the Visegrad4 have seen the results of this multiculturalism in Western Europe and they do not wish for this type of lifestyle, and who could blame them.

             It all comes down to this final match, a battle that Merkel cannot win.  Either she finally accepts the responsibility of securing the border and stopping the inflow or the EU will split into an East and West division.  For Eastern Europeans, what is the “value” of saving the EU if you lose your soul, your culture, and “your way of life”.

Game On! Stay Strong V4!
   

   

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5 hours ago

V4 Report

* Brussels/Open Society: EU Commission meeting between Frans Timmermans and George Soros in Brussels reveals the radical ideology behind so-called “EU values”

According to the Brussels Times, this meeting was designed to send a message to Hungary 🇭🇺, but we believe it is unprofessional, inappropriate and will further alienate mainstream Europe from the extreme multicult beliefs of the EU Commissioners.

But at least it provides a clear picture of why Timmermans and other EU Ministers, such as Vera Jourova, have decided to attack both Hungary and Poland. George Soros and the Open Society network are now the “centers of influence” in Brussels.

** Asked by a journalist about the purpose of the meeting, the chief spokesperson replied that Timmermans and Soros have known each other for many years.

“They’ll discuss broader issues of relevance to the EU, such as how to keep EU Member States together....Closer and always together,” he explained.

This resulted in a follow-up question from another journalist: “Are you sure that Soros wants the EU to stick together?” To which the spokesperson simply replied that he does not speak for Soros but for the Commission and Timmermans.

The Brussels Times contacted Frans Timmermans directly to receive his comment on a question which could have been asked by the Hungarian government itself.

Timmermans confirmed that he has been regularly in touch with George Soros and the Open Society Foundations over the last 20 years.

“I have seen firsthand in many different places what his commitment and his contributions have done to help countries rid themselves of their totalitarian, communist past and develop societies based on the same values that were enjoyed by those of us who were lucky enough to be on the right side of the Iron Curtain after WW2 or had the good fortune to liberate themselves from dictatorship earlier,” Timmermans replied.

“Given his and my experience with these issues, it seems to me absolutely logical that we would remain in touch regularly and compare notes about the situation in Europe and beyond.” The socialist from the Netherlands calls himself an expert on freedom. Sure thing, Frans. 🙄👌

“There is no doubt in my mind that his commitment to freedom, democracy and the development of open societies with equal rights for all citizens is genuine and honest,” he said.

Timmermans feels strongly about this commitment. ”It is a commitment I have shared throughout my professional life and a commitment I will stick to until I draw my final breath.”

*** Frans Timmermans has revealed his loyalties and cannot be expected to provide independent and impartial judgement regarding the European nation states.

Visegrad and others should demand his immediate resignation. Timmermans is a multicult activist and should be working for Open Society, instead of undermining Europe.

www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affairs/10983/commission-meeting-with-soros-in-brussels-sends-signal-to-...
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* Brussels/Open Society:  EU Commission meeting between Frans Timmermans and George Soros in Brussels reveals the radical ideology behind so-called “EU values”

According to the Brussels Times, this meeting was designed to send a message to Hungary 🇭🇺, but we believe it is unprofessional, inappropriate and will further alienate mainstream Europe from the extreme multicult beliefs of the EU Commissioners. 

But at least it provides a clear picture of why Timmermans and other EU Ministers, such as Vera Jourova, have decided to attack both Hungary and Poland.  George Soros and the Open Society network are now the “centers of influence” in Brussels.  

** Asked by a journalist about the purpose of the meeting, the chief spokesperson replied that Timmermans and Soros have known each other for many years. 

“They’ll discuss broader issues of relevance to the EU, such as how to keep EU Member States together....Closer and always together,” he explained.

This resulted in a follow-up question from another journalist: “Are you sure that Soros wants the  EU to stick together?” To which the spokesperson simply replied that he does not speak for Soros but for the Commission and Timmermans. 

The Brussels Times contacted Frans Timmermans directly to receive his comment on a question which could have been asked by the Hungarian government itself.

Timmermans confirmed that he has been regularly in touch with George Soros and the Open Society Foundations over the last 20 years. 

“I have seen firsthand in many different places what his commitment and his contributions have done to help countries rid themselves of their totalitarian, communist past and develop societies based on the same values that were enjoyed by those of us who were lucky enough to be on the right side of the Iron Curtain after WW2 or had the good fortune to liberate themselves from dictatorship earlier,” Timmermans replied.

“Given his and my experience with these issues, it seems to me absolutely logical that we would remain in touch regularly and compare notes about the situation in Europe and beyond.”  The socialist from the Netherlands calls himself an expert on freedom.  Sure thing, Frans. 🙄👌

“There is no doubt in my mind that his commitment to freedom, democracy and the development of open societies with equal rights for all citizens is genuine and honest,” he said. 

Timmermans feels strongly about this commitment. ”It is a commitment I have shared throughout my professional life and a commitment I will stick to until I draw my final breath.” 

*** Frans Timmermans has revealed his loyalties and cannot be expected to provide independent and impartial judgement regarding the European nation states.

Visegrad and others should demand his immediate resignation.  Timmermans is a multicult activist and should be working for Open Society, instead of undermining Europe.

http://www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affairs/10983/commission-meeting-with-soros-in-brussels-sends-signal-to-hungary

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Dude you lost this run. We will meet in 2019.

we should remember that processes last for decades and such people are just puppets. they just fight for survive

See you "eye to eye" in 2019 Frans Timmermans ;)

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

Soros values

Asshole Merkel she's with Soros

These fucking guys

Jimmie Åkesson var uppmärksam...

I tutaj walnij sie w glowe...

Andrzej Duda watch this....

Inte rasist men Realist..läs

Vi som hatar journalister & politiker för att dom alltid vinklar sanningen

Timmerman is a big piece of shit!

Anti-európean idiot!

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6 hours ago

V4 Report

* Germany 🇪🇺🇩🇪 to accept 10,000 migrants from North Africa and the Middle East. The scheme designed at the Malta Summit is now implemented.

EU Commissioner for Refugees Dimitris Avramopoulos said Germany would be accepting more than 10,000 migrants from North Africa and the Middle East. He added that the EU Commission had received a commitment from Berlin this week, confirming that Germany would play an important role in the EU's “latest” resettlement program.

"The German government is once again there when it comes to international solidarity," Avramopoulos said in Thursday editions of newspapers in the Funke Media Group.

We see Avramopoulos has moved beyond EU solidarity. Now it’s “international solidarity”.

** In February of 2017, the V4 Report predicted this would be the result from the Malta Summit. It is now a reality. Some countries are now providing “safe-legal pathways” for migrants to enter Europe via direct transfers from Turkey and Africa. v4report.com/index.php/2017/02/06/merkel-euco-deception-malta-summit/

Working with the United Nations, the EU aims to provide a legal, direct and safe route to Europe for migrants. At least 50,000 migrants from “crisis areas” are to be brought into the EU by 2019. Other member states, like Slovenia 🇸🇮, have already agreed to resettle 40,000 migrants, meaning that the program's goal has been achieved, and may even be exceeded. The resettlement initiatives could be endless.

The EU will be supporting host countries by providing €500 million ($620 million) in funding for the program. In reality, it’s not the EU’s money.

Meanwhile, the EU Commission has urged Germany to end border controls as soon as possible. Avramopoulos told the Funke Media Group that he would not agree to such controls "forever." So Avramopoulos will decide this internal issue for Germany?

German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer recently informed the EU Commission that controls on Germany's border to Austria would be extended for another six months, although systematic controls on flights from Greece would be discontinued.

Avramopoulos welcomed the decision taken by the German authorities to stop systematic border controls at German airports for passengers arriving from Greece.

One does not have to be a scientist to realize what this means.

www.infomigrants.net/en/post/8730/germany-to-accept-10-000-refugees-from-north-africa-middle-east
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* Germany 🇪🇺🇩🇪 to accept 10,000 migrants from North Africa and the Middle East.  The scheme designed at the Malta Summit is now implemented.

EU Commissioner for Refugees Dimitris Avramopoulos said Germany would be accepting more than 10,000 migrants from North Africa and the Middle East. He added that the EU Commission had received a commitment from Berlin this week, confirming that Germany would play an important role in the EUs “latest” resettlement program.

The German government is once again there when it comes to international solidarity, Avramopoulos said in Thursday editions of newspapers in the Funke Media Group.

We see Avramopoulos has moved beyond EU solidarity.  Now it’s “international solidarity”.  

** In February of 2017, the V4 Report predicted this would be the result from the Malta Summit.  It is now a reality.  Some countries are now providing “safe-legal pathways” for migrants to enter Europe via direct transfers from Turkey and Africa.  http://v4report.com/index.php/2017/02/06/merkel-euco-deception-malta-summit/

Working with the United Nations, the EU aims to provide a legal, direct and safe route to Europe for migrants. At least 50,000 migrants from “crisis areas” are to be brought into the EU by 2019. Other member states, like Slovenia 🇸🇮, have already agreed to resettle 40,000 migrants, meaning that the programs goal has been achieved, and may even be exceeded.  The resettlement initiatives could be endless.

The EU will be supporting host countries by providing €500 million ($620 million) in funding for the program.  In reality, it’s not the EU’s money.

Meanwhile, the EU Commission has urged Germany to end border controls as soon as possible. Avramopoulos told the Funke Media Group that he would not agree to such controls forever. So Avramopoulos will decide this internal issue for Germany?

German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer recently informed the EU Commission that controls on Germanys border to Austria would be extended for another six months, although systematic controls on flights from Greece would be discontinued.

Avramopoulos welcomed the decision taken by the German authorities to stop systematic border controls at German airports for passengers arriving from Greece. 

One does not have to be a scientist to realize what this means.

http://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/8730/germany-to-accept-10-000-refugees-from-north-africa-middle-east

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terrible faces...

Cock sucker

Those idiots should be catch and put in to the jail ,before they start civil war in Europe

Mogherini and Avramopoulos should be amongst the first to invite in migrants to their own homes --- to practice what they preach, like!

Look at this two shithead ... anyone trust them?

Today muslim migrants are coming to Europe. But after a few years local european people will be going out of europe By the same bus.....

Oh my god, you are now surely doomed like never before!

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7 hours ago

V4 Report

* 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Wales Online: Some impressive action here by members of the public to thwart a man with a knife.

Wales Online
This is the moment brave members of the public smashed a cyclist with a huge knife off his getaway bike as he fled from police in Cardiff city centre.
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Wales Online

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Playing rugby at school finally paid off ;)

Super

👍

Like watching Play Off Hockey

I'm surprised the person who knocked him of the bike wasn't arrested considering the way things are going in Britain now

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