Turkey: NATO Nightmare; Must develop article for expulsion

Turkey: NATO Nightmare; Must develop article for expulsion

*Update of original article from Nov. 2015.

Erdogan and Turkey continue to be embarrassments to both Angela Merkel and NATO. Instead of providing stability, Erdogan is threatening Europe and Syria. He uses the refugees as cattle/bargaining chips to get his way in Syria and the EU.

However,the EU has economic leverage on Turkey and could break Erdogan’s ribs with hardball economic body blows. NATO also needs to have a quiet chat with him. A typical bully like Erdogan does not respond to roses and candy. Character and attitude adjustments can only be achieved through strength and resolve. Stand up to him and he will get the message.

Enjoy the original article:

The UN has long ago lost all respect and credibility. They are feckless, unrealistic, and tend to discriminate against Christians and the West. No one respects the UN anymore due to their behavior and actions. They are irrelevant.

Is NATO becoming the new UN? Obviously, NATO was founded for noble purposes and Turkey may have made sense in 1951 as the Cold War raged. But circumstances change…should we be committed to defend a rogue nation because of a pledge made 64 years ago under very different circumstances?

I find these automatic alliances a dangerous idea. Look back to World War I and how casual pledges led one country after another into conflict without a true purpose of what they were fighting for. It’s called “mobilization without thought”.

What were they fighting for? They were fighting because outdated treaties forced them to. (Obviously, I simplify here, it goes a little deeper, but that discussion is for another time; the point here is that many countries did indeed mobilize based on past committments.)

The Cold War is history, so why NATO? I understand the arguments for and against, but if the US, for instance, wants to defend Slovakia or Czech republic (two of my favorites), we should do so based on the merits and congressional authorization, not automatic triggers. Obviously these two countries are solid partners and are not shooting down Russian planes or supporting Islamic radicals….but another NATO country, Turkey, is. There is strong evidence that Erdogan is directly or indirectly supporting ISIS, al-Nusra and various other Islamic extremists in Syria.

Behind closed doors, NATO officials clearly believe Erdogan’s actions were both provocative and unwarranted. But it’s certainly a dangerous game they are playing, being held hostage by the actions of Erdogan, based on outdated committments made decades ago. In addition, how can NATO’s reputation as a responsible organization not suffer when one of their members has gone rogue?

Here lies the problem with NATO. There is nothing in their charter about dropping a NATO member, it can only be done on a voluntary basis with one years notice. I find this astonishing, if not maddening. Turkey can hold NATO hostage to their actions. Erdogan knew exactly what he was doing when he shot down that Russian plane in very disputable circumstances. He wants to punish Putin for his success against Turkey’s extremist allies in Syria and wants to use NATO as his buffer to prevent Putin from striking back.

We may never know if that plane violated Turkish airspace or not, after all, it’s Putin’s word vs Erdogan’s word. However, we all know Turkey was in no danger and Erdogan acted in a provocative and desperate manner. Now the “little tyrant” talks tough knowing he has the big guy (NATO) at his back.

NATO needs to come clean to uphold their integrity. This was not a defensive move on Turkey’s part. Therefore, NATO must make it clear that this attack on a Russian plane was not defensive in any way and does not commit them to come to the aid of a conspiring member nation.

In addition, NATO must have a mechanism to remove member nations; it cannot allow itself to be enslaved by a nation that abuses its membership and carelessly, for their own purposes, puts the security of other member nations at risk.

Are Americans ready to fight and die for Erdogan and Turkey, the allies of radical Islamists in Syria? The question for today: If one is only as good as its weakest member…has NATO’s association with Turkey allowed themselves to become just another discredited international organization like the UN

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1 hour ago

V4 Report

* True European Solidarity at the border: Czech Republic 🇨🇿 sent 1,275 police officers abroad since 2015 to help secure Europe from illegal migration. What has Luxembourg done?

** All four of the Visegrad nations are helping other nation states in Europe with border security.

Most Czech police served missions in Macedonia, Hungary, Serbia, Slovenia and even Greece. Others assisted with the EU Frontex Agency in Italy, Spain and Portugal.

There are still problems with the migrants along the Greek-Macedonian border, where Czech police officers participated in the detention of 314 migrants. The leaders of Greece are creating a backlog and are not deporting “all irregulars” back to Turkey as required under the deal with the EU. This needs to change.

In the host countries, Czech police officers usually help local police protect the border, supervise the observance of the public order, and make security and road checks.

The Czechs are also one of the most generous countries in providing border aid to Libya to help prevent the illegal migrants from traveling to Europe.
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* True European Solidarity at the border: Czech Republic 🇨🇿 sent 1,275 police officers abroad since 2015 to help secure Europe from illegal migration.  What has Luxembourg done?

** All four of the Visegrad nations are helping other nation states in Europe with border security.

Most Czech police served missions in Macedonia, Hungary, Serbia, Slovenia and even Greece.  Others assisted with the EU Frontex Agency in Italy, Spain and Portugal.

There are still problems with the migrants along the Greek-Macedonian border, where Czech police officers participated in the detention of 314 migrants.  The leaders of Greece are creating a backlog and are not deporting “all irregulars” back to Turkey as required under the deal with the EU.  This needs to change.

In the host countries, Czech police officers usually help local police protect the border, supervise the observance of the public order, and make security and road checks.

The Czechs are also one of the most generous countries in providing border aid to Libya to help prevent the illegal migrants from traveling to Europe.

2 hours ago

V4 Report

* 🇱🇺 Luxembourg’s socialist foreign affairs minister Jean Asselborn wants to start Article7 procedures against Hungary 🇭🇺. Yesterday, he shamelessly likened prime minister Viktor Orbán to a dictator.

Asselborn is well-known for his attacks on Orban but so are others. Orban listed the EU politicians who attacked Hungary in the past but later failed: Faymann, Kern, Milanovic and Matteo Renzi. Perhaps the best example was Martin Schulz whose “anti-Orban” campaign in Germany failed miserably. Orban said, “Schulz wanted to be everything, but became nothing".

Are Western European leaders becoming unglued over the recent success and independence of Visegrad?

** Asselborn, a member of the Socialist Workers’ Party, once served under the government of Jean-Claude Juncker. Asselborn is pictured below with the “High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy” Federica Mogherini, who was once a member of the Italian Communist Youth Federation, upon joining in 1988.

*** The V4 Report warned of more of these bitter political attacks on the nation states after the EU launched Article7 procedures against Poland a few months ago. “Who will be the next target of the EU Inquisition?” we asked. Apparently, it is Hungary. Someone else will be next.

Asselborn said that Orban’s statements should lead to the triggering of Article 7, adding that “the EU must stand up and revolt”.

Watch out, the warriors of Luxembourg have called on Western Europe to “stand up and revolt”. Somehow, we cannot take Asselborn, PM Xavier Bettel and the passive leaders of Luxembourg seriously. What is Luxembourg doing to combat illegal migration? Are they exhibiting “solidarity” by sending police to help secure the Balkan route or do they just enjoy solidarity when it involves fancy dinner parties in Brussels?

What did Orban say to earn the scorn of Asselborn?

“We are those who think that Europe’s last hope is Christianity … If hundreds of millions of young people are allowed to move north, there will be enormous pressure on Europe. If all this continues, in the big cities of Europe there will be a Muslim majority.”

Orbán also accused the High Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe as being the “main ideologues of the Soros Network”. He has a point. Prior to his appointment as Commissioner for Human Rights, Nils Muižnieks was the Programme Director at the Soros Foundation-Latvia.

On the UN, Orban stated:

“What does the United Nations want to do? The United Nations wants to accept that immigration and its promotion contribute positively to economic growth and prosperity. From Europe, this is obviously nonsense, as if someone said that the flu pandemic is a good thing because it contributes favorably to people's health and well-being. According to the UN, safe and regulated immigration routes need to be established in Europe, according to the United Nations, all Europeans have a duty to help immigrants arrive in their settlements and work. We understand that 80 percent of the UN member states are more migrant countries, but we have not created the United Nations to turn to us and force us to ruin us.”

This is not the first time Hungary has been slandered by Asselborn, who once said Hungary “should be temporarily suspended, or if necessary, permanently expelled from the EU.”

In an interview with German newspaper Die Welt, Asselborn expressed his anger at the Hungarian government’s policy on migrants, saying “the fence that Hungary is building along to keep out refugees is getting longer, higher and becoming more dangerous. Hungary is not far from giving orders to shoot refugees. Anyone who wants to surmount the fence has to reckon with the worst.”

“Shooting the refugees”? No. Protecting Hungarians from unknown, aggressive male migrants? Yes.

**** Luxembourg may be irrelevant, but this is a preview of the strategy to be utilized by the leaders of Western Europe in their battle with Visegrad and the CEE states over migration. The EU does not like independent thought and is prepared to vilify and smear both Poland and Hungary in an attempt to divide Visegrad by isolating their strongest leaders.

Things are starting to get ugly and divisive inside the EU. We expect more of the same as the migration manifesto demanded by Berlin and Brussels continues to divide Europe.

delano.lu/d/detail/news/asselborn-start-art-7-procedure-against-hungary/170403
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* 🇱🇺 Luxembourg’s socialist foreign affairs minister Jean Asselborn wants to start Article7 procedures against Hungary 🇭🇺.  Yesterday, he shamelessly likened prime minister Viktor Orbán to a dictator.  

Asselborn is well-known for his attacks on Orban but so are others. Orban listed the EU politicians who attacked Hungary in the past but later failed:  Faymann, Kern, Milanovic and Matteo Renzi.  Perhaps the best example was Martin Schulz whose “anti-Orban” campaign in Germany failed miserably.  Orban said, “Schulz wanted to be everything, but became nothing.

Are Western European leaders becoming unglued over the recent success and independence of Visegrad?

** Asselborn, a member of the Socialist Workers’ Party, once served under the government of Jean-Claude Juncker.  Asselborn is pictured below with the “High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy” Federica Mogherini, who was once a member of the Italian Communist Youth Federation, upon joining in 1988. 

*** The V4 Report warned of more of these bitter political attacks on the nation states after the EU launched Article7 procedures against Poland a few months ago.  “Who will be the next target of the EU Inquisition?” we asked.  Apparently, it is Hungary.  Someone else will be next.

Asselborn said that Orban’s statements should lead to the triggering of Article 7, adding that “the EU must stand up and revolt”. 

Watch out, the warriors of Luxembourg have called on Western Europe to “stand up and revolt”.  Somehow, we cannot take Asselborn, PM Xavier Bettel and the passive leaders of Luxembourg seriously.  What is Luxembourg doing to combat illegal migration?  Are they exhibiting “solidarity” by sending police to help secure the Balkan route or do they just enjoy solidarity when it involves fancy dinner parties in Brussels?

What did Orban say to earn the scorn of Asselborn? 

“We are those who think that Europe’s last hope is Christianity … If hundreds of millions of young people are allowed to move north, there will be enormous pressure on Europe. If all this continues, in the big cities of Europe there will be a Muslim majority.”

Orbán also accused the High Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe as being the “main ideologues of the Soros Network”.  He has a point.  Prior to his appointment as Commissioner for Human Rights, Nils Muižnieks was the Programme Director at the Soros Foundation-Latvia.

On the UN, Orban stated:

“What does the United Nations want to do? The United Nations wants to accept that immigration and its promotion contribute positively to economic growth and prosperity. From Europe, this is obviously nonsense, as if someone said that the flu pandemic is a good thing because it contributes favorably to peoples health and well-being. According to the UN, safe and regulated immigration routes need to be established in Europe, according to the United Nations, all Europeans have a duty to help immigrants arrive in their settlements and work. We understand that 80 percent of the UN member states are more migrant countries, but we have not created the United Nations to turn to us and force us to ruin us.”

This is not the first time Hungary has been slandered by Asselborn, who once said Hungary “should be temporarily suspended, or if necessary, permanently expelled from the EU.” 

In an interview with German newspaper Die Welt, Asselborn expressed his anger at the Hungarian government’s policy on migrants, saying “the fence that Hungary is building along to keep out refugees is getting longer, higher and becoming more dangerous. Hungary is not far from giving orders to shoot refugees. Anyone who wants to surmount the fence has to reckon with the worst.”

“Shooting the refugees”?  No.  Protecting Hungarians from unknown, aggressive male migrants?  Yes.

**** Luxembourg may be irrelevant, but this is a preview of the strategy to be utilized by the leaders of Western Europe in their battle with Visegrad and the CEE states over migration.  The EU does not like independent thought and is prepared to vilify and smear both Poland and Hungary in an attempt to divide Visegrad by isolating their strongest leaders.

Things are starting to get ugly and divisive inside the EU.  We expect more of the same as the migration manifesto demanded by Berlin and Brussels continues to divide Europe.

http://delano.lu/d/detail/news/asselborn-start-art-7-procedure-against-hungary/170403

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Don't u report other things apart from Hungary and Poland issues 😴

Nasty people. Not fit for purpose the EU.

Who are these puppets? ... oh, just the usual fart-filled soap bubbles.

Oh boy... socialists are on it again... Poland and Hungary seem like nemesis for European Union

Az EU vezetősége kizárólag leszerepelt volt európai miniszterek, akik egymást illegálisan kinevezték a főpiziciókba, és ami szorosan összeköti öket a Soros szolgálat. Úgy látszik, Soros jól megfizeti szolgálataikat! Európai árulói ezek, amiért egyszer súlyos árat fognak fizetni.

Incroyable ingerence in the Hungarian elections!

He cant do nothing to Hungary. Cheer up, Friends, he's only dumb socialist ;-)

Asselborn is a Communist and he wants to to reactivate an EUSSR. Stop communists!

The ass born and the Islam loving slut concubine of Mohammed. A European revolt is long overdue. www.infowars.com/eu-security-head-political-islam-is-the-future-of-europe/

These people who "represent" the public should have tranparent bank accounts.. Their families also

Asselborn is just a simple European mf, his time will come soon too   He has never been chosen by anyone as a our boss! We are on the brink of a devastating European war and these assholes still “getting drunk”!

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1 day ago

V4 Report

* Czech Republic 🇨🇿: Visegrad nation protecting Europe by combating illegal migration. 35 illegal migrants found in lorries detained by police, spokeswoman Veronika Hokrova told journalists on Saturday.

The detained lorry drivers are suspected to be internal people traffickers, Hokrova said. This, along with so-called human rights activists who assist in the crime of illegal migration, has become a major problem in Europe. The authorities must severely punish those who assist with illegal migration and must target internal traffickers just as much as external smugglers. Someone is aiding the migrants once they enter Europe.

"The detained persons were driven by special buses to the immigration police station for further measures," Hokrova said.

"At present, we are finding out within the EU whether the people are registered as asylum seekers in a different EU country," she added.

"It should be found out whether they can be returned to the country in which the foreigners asked for asylum within the Dublin system and its directives," Hokrova said.

"There is also the option of proceeding consistently with the readmission agreement with Slovakia because the lorries came to the Czech Republic from it," she added.

The police officers arrested the drivers and their fellow passengers aged 26 to 37. The police started criminal proceedings with them.

In 2017, the immigration police detained 172 transit migrants, while there were 511 of them in 2016. At the peak of the border crisis in 2015, the Czechs detained 2,294 illegal migrants.

** The Czechs are correct to detain the migrants, rather than letting them roam Europe. In 2015, the UN and Pussy Riot punk band traveled to the Czech Republic to protest this procedure. Ex-Interior Minister Milan Chovanec basically told them to mind their own business. As we have seen, migrant roaming has been a recipe for disaster in Western Europe.

This is another reason why we strongly oppose the attempts from the UN to establish a global migration manifesto.

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* Czech Republic 🇨🇿:  Visegrad nation protecting Europe by combating illegal migration.  35 illegal migrants found in lorries detained by police, spokeswoman Veronika Hokrova told journalists on Saturday.

The detained lorry drivers are suspected to be internal people traffickers, Hokrova said.  This, along with so-called human rights activists who assist in the crime of illegal migration, has become a major problem in Europe. The authorities must severely punish those who assist with illegal migration and must target internal traffickers just as much as external smugglers.  Someone is aiding the migrants once they enter Europe.

The detained persons were driven by special buses to the immigration police station for further measures, Hokrova said.

At present, we are finding out within the EU whether the people are registered as asylum seekers in a different EU country, she added.

It should be found out whether they can be returned to the country in which the foreigners asked for asylum within the Dublin system and its directives, Hokrova said.

There is also the option of proceeding consistently with the readmission agreement with Slovakia because the lorries came to the Czech Republic from it, she added.

The police officers arrested the drivers and their fellow passengers aged 26 to 37. The police started criminal proceedings with them.  

In 2017, the immigration police detained 172 transit migrants, while there were 511 of them in 2016.  At the peak of the border crisis in 2015, the Czechs detained 2,294 illegal migrants.

** The Czechs are correct to detain the migrants, rather than letting them roam Europe.  In 2015, the UN and Pussy Riot punk band traveled to the Czech Republic to protest this procedure. Ex-Interior Minister Milan Chovanec basically told them to mind their own business.  As we have seen, migrant roaming has been a recipe for disaster in Western Europe. 

This is another reason why we strongly oppose the attempts from the UN to establish a global migration manifesto. 

http://praguemonitor.com/2018/02/19/czech-police-uncover-large-people-smuggling-case

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thank you, fellow slavs for your sacrifice. our country ( mainly due to politics) succumbed to migrants... only good thing is that we're too poor for their life style :p.

There were 50 of them. 28 in one truck and the rest in the other one.

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